minors / en Christopher Kardambikis on the Power of Print, Publishing, and Possibility /news/2025-06/christopher-kardambikis-power-print-publishing-and-possibility <span>Christopher Kardambikis on the Power of Print, Publishing, and Possibility</span> <span><span>Lakin Raybuck</span></span> <span><time datetime="2025-06-02T13:27:21-04:00" title="Monday, June 2, 2025 - 13:27">Mon, 06/02/2025 - 13:27</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--30-70"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_associated_people" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-associated-people"> <h2>In This Story</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-associated-people field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">People Mentioned in This Story</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/profiles/ckardamb" hreflang="und">Christopher Kardambikis</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><a href="/profiles/ckardamb"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun intro-text" lang="EN-US">Christopher Kardambikis</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun intro-text" lang="EN-US"> never set out to create work that would sit behind glass or live in private collections. Instead, he found his voice and purpose through publishing zines, artist books, and prints—things people could hold, trade, collect, and care about without needing a trust fund.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0 intro-text">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Now an associate professor and director of studio art at George Mason 鶹's </span><a href="https://art.gmu.edu/"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">School of Art</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, Kardambikis brings that same ethos into the classroom. He teaches printmaking, book arts, and a deeply collaborative publishing minor that opens students up to something much more tangible than the "starving artist" cliché.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0"> &nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">"I want the work to be distributed," he </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">says</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">. "I want normal people to actually access it."</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">It's a perspective shaped not just by art school or gallery walls but by real-world experiences that most students </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">never hear</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> about. Before coming to George Mason, Kardambikis worked as an artist's assistant and then at an art shipping warehouse in Long Island, New York. His job? Packaging up expensive artwork and preparing it for storage, sometimes indefinitely.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0"> &nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">"There's so much work that just sits in crates," he recalls. "These paintings get bought by wealthy collectors, but no one ever sees them. They're not even </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">being enjoyed</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">. They're investments, sitting on shelves."</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">With print-based art, he found a medium that could move freely, outside the confines of exclusivity.&nbsp;</span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-left"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/medium/public/2025-06/9i6a4687.jpg?itok=bh5jsL0z" width="560" height="373" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>Christopher Kardambikis of George Mason's School of Art. Photo provided</figcaption> </figure> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">His long-running podcast </span><a class="Hyperlink SCXW119472824 BCX0" href="https://www.kardambikis.com/paper-cuts" target="_blank"><em><span class="TextRun Underlined SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Paper Cuts</span></em></a><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> was born from that same spirit of access. Launched initially during his artist residency at Pioneer Works in Brooklyn, the project started </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun AdvancedProofingIssueV2Themed" lang="EN-US">as a way to</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> interview </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun SpellingErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">zinesters</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> and small press artists as an excuse to talk to people about the books they make. Over the years, it's grown into a traveling platform for community, collaboration, and archival storytelling.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">It also gave him a way to connect. "When I moved to new cities—Pittsburgh, San Diego, LA, New York—I always started a publishing project. That's how I made friends. That's how I met people and became part of </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">a scene</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">."</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">At George Mason, he's helping students see how print and publishing can do the same for them.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Students team up with working artists, presses, and organizations across the region through the School of Art's </span><a href="https://creativewriting.gmu.edu/undergraduate-program/minor-in-dynamic-publishing"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">Dynamic Publishing minor</span></a><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">. They produce real books, collaborate with local creatives, and watch their work move from concept to finished product—all while developing a skill set that's adaptable, entrepreneurial, and community-focused.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0"> &nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">And while he's quick to point out that not everyone needs to start their own press, he wants students to understand the range of what's possible. He introduces them to people building careers through small studios, cooperative print shops, local arts education, and community-centered creative work.&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">"You're not limited to being in a gallery," he says. "You don't have to wait for someone to give you permission."</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">One of his goals is to help students see just how resourceful they already are. In his classes, students don't just learn the techniques. They learn how to plan, produce, and problem solve, often using materials or processes far outside traditional expectations. "You learn to do </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">the research</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">, figure it out, and follow your vision wherever it leads. That's not something you can teach in theory. You have to live it."</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">He also believes deeply in the relevance of physical work in </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">a digital</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">-first world. Books, he says, still matter. Maybe now more than ever.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0"> &nbsp;</span></p> <blockquote><p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">"Websites </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">disappear</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">. Apps go away. But books can last hundreds of years. They're solid. They hold stories. They're touchable, tangible</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">, real</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">."</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> </blockquote> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">It's not about resisting technology. It's about remembering that the physical and </span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun ContextualSpellingAndGrammarErrorV2Themed" lang="EN-US">the digital</span><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US"> don't have to be at odds. In fact, for many of his students, learning how ink interacts with paper changes how they think about design altogether.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0"> &nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">"Once they've made something by hand. Once they've printed it, folded it, held it, it shifts how they understand what they're doing," he says. "It gives it weight."</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0"><span class="TextRun SCXW119472824 BCX0 NormalTextRun" lang="EN-US">And for Kardambikis, that's the point: helping students create work that carries weight not just on the page but also in the world.</span><span class="EOP SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</span></p> <p class="Paragraph SCXW119472824 BCX0">&nbsp;</p> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_content_topics" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-content-topics"> <h2>Topics</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-content-topics field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Topics</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/1086" hreflang="en">School of Art</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/146" hreflang="en">College of Visual and Performing Arts (CVPA)</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/166" hreflang="en">innovative classes</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/116" hreflang="en">Campus News</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/3681" hreflang="en">minors</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Mon, 02 Jun 2025 17:27:21 +0000 Lakin Raybuck 117936 at Engineering, Carter School students give peace a chance /news/2024-07/engineering-carter-school-students-give-peace-chance <span>Engineering, Carter School students give peace a chance</span> <span><span>Nathan Kahl</span></span> <span><time datetime="2024-07-23T14:51:26-04:00" title="Tuesday, July 23, 2024 - 14:51">Tue, 07/23/2024 - 14:51</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--30-70"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> <div data-block-plugin-id="inline_block:call_to_action" data-inline-block-uuid="893af2e8-8396-4bfe-a60c-532d38ad2bf9"> <div class="cta"> <a class="cta__link" href="https://catalog.gmu.edu/search/?scontext=all&amp;search=Peace%20Engineering"> <h4 class="cta__title">Learn More About the Minor <i class="fas fa-arrow-circle-right"></i> </h4> <span class="cta__icon"></span> </a> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_associated_people" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-associated-people"> <h2>In This Story</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-associated-people field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">People Mentioned in This Story</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/profiles/ldurant2" hreflang="und">Liza Wilson Durant</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/profiles/rganesan" hreflang="und">Rajesh Ganesan</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/profiles/aozerdem" hreflang="und">Alpaslan Özerdem</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/profiles/jwalkerq" hreflang="und">Jane Walker</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:body" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasebody"> <div class="field field--name-body field--type-text-with-summary field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Body</div> <div class="field__item"><p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span class="intro-text">Incoming college students are increasingly concerned with social justice, conflict resolution, and sustainability. These are byproducts of being raised in an interconnected, interdisciplinary world, where they’ve been taught to consider the downstream consequences of their actions and decisions.</span> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/medium/public/2024-07/img_13081.jpg?itok=mZTguHzk" width="560" height="310" alt="Engineers for International Development 2023" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>Engineering students like the Engineers for International Development group pictured here on a clean drinking water project in Ecuador served as inspiration for the new minor. Photo provided</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>In response, the George Mason 鶹 <a href="https://cec.gmu.edu/">College of Engineering and Computing</a> (CEC) and Carter School for Peace and Conflict Resolution are now collaborating on a <a href="https://catalog.gmu.edu/search/?scontext=all&amp;search=Peace%20Engineering">minor in peace engineering</a>. The minor’s germination comes from numerous places but was pushed forward initially by Liza Wilson Durant, CEC’s associate provost for strategic initiatives and community engagement, and Alpaslan Özerdem, dean of the Carter School. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>"I advised students in Mason’s Engineers for International Development chapter on developing engineered solutions to community problems in remote lands in Central America,” said Durant. “The engagement with community members and the work to understand the needs of a vast number of community stakeholders was as important as the final engineered solution. It occurred to me that we could bring that kind of understanding&nbsp;to the classroom for more engineering students through collaboration with the Carter School.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Jane Walker, director of undergraduate student services for the Carter School, said the minor is ideal for students of both colleges. “The engineering students will better understand culture, people, and the complexity of their interactions, and Carter School students will better understand systems thinking and engineering design. Understanding design process helps with problem solving.” </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Walker noted that their students have shown interest in adding to their expertise in conflict analysis with skills in project management and technical considerations, which they could get from classes that make up this minor.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-left"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/small_content_image/public/2024-07/screen_shot_2024-07-23_at_2.53.07_pm.png?itok=hq1NMMPt" width="301" height="319" alt="Headshot of a woman" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>Durant was inspired watching students tackle problems in Central America.</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>According to the university website, the minor “brings together expertise in systems-level science, engineering principles, and conflict resolution practice to support conditions for peace. It prepares students to engage in projects with conflict sensitivity and to understand the engineering technologies and approaches impacting human systems.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>“When I pursued my civil engineering degree in Istanbul during the late 1980s, our curriculum offered limited engagement with socio-economic and cultural issues,” said Özerdem. “Although we had the opportunity to select a few electives that touched upon these topics, the primary focus remained on the technical and structural aspects of civil engineering.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Rajesh Ganesan, an associate professor in the Systems Engineering and Operations Research Department, explained how systems engineering approaches are useful. “As we look at conflict on the whole from a global perspective, and think of all the huge factors that play a role in any crisis, we want to incorporate systems thinking into conflict analysis," he said. "It’s important for our students to have those systems thinking approaches.” </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <figure role="group" class="align-right"> <div> <div class="field field--name-image field--type-image field--label-hidden field__item"> <img src="/sites/g/files/yyqcgq291/files/styles/small_content_image/public/2024-07/screen_shot_2024-07-23_at_2.11.30_pm.png?itok=VG57Wnvg" width="305" height="289" alt="Headshot of a man" loading="lazy"> </div> </div> <figcaption>Özerdem, an engineer by training, wants students to develop holistic approaches to problems.</figcaption> </figure> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Özerdem said, “The disciplinary focus has evolved from a narrow technical lens to a more holistic approach that embraces flexibility and interdisciplinary learning. This shift has been a response to the growing recognition that the challenges we face today—ranging from climate change and urbanization to social equity and global peace—cannot be adequately addressed by any single discipline alone.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Ganesan added that increasingly students are asking for courses related to things like climate change, global conflicts, energy sustainability, and more. He said, “These words were nonexistent previously. If you had asked me six or seven years ago, nobody spoke about these things, but now the students are asking for them, and we have other pushes, like from the Dean’s Advisory Board.”&nbsp; He said the advisory board, students, and alumni are the key sources of feedback on curriculum change. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>For students looking to graduate on time, the minor only requires 15 more credits, of which eight are unique.&nbsp; A student may complete the minor by adding three classes and no more semesters.&nbsp; </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Özerdem has a strong vision for the minor. “In the coming years, we hope to see it become a flagship program attracting a diverse and dynamic cohort of students from across the university,” he said.&nbsp; “鶹 goal is to build a robust and supportive learning environment where students from different disciplines can collaborate and learn from one another, fostering a culture of innovation and interdisciplinary excellence.”</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p> <p>&nbsp;</p> </div> </div> </div> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_content_topics" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-content-topics"> <h2>Topics</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-content-topics field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Topics</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/2971" hreflang="en">Carter School for Peace and Conflict Resolution</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/18041" hreflang="en">Conflict Analysis and Resolution</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/4396" hreflang="en">Civil Engineering</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/336" hreflang="en">Students</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/3681" hreflang="en">minors</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/20251" hreflang="en">CEC Global Engagement</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Tue, 23 Jul 2024 18:51:26 +0000 Nathan Kahl 113066 at 2020 Curriculum Impact Grant recipients announced /news/2020-07/2020-curriculum-impact-grant-recipients-announced <span>2020 Curriculum Impact Grant recipients announced</span> <span><span>Colleen Rich</span></span> <span><time datetime="2020-07-16T05:00:19-04:00" title="Thursday, July 16, 2020 - 05:00">Thu, 07/16/2020 - 05:00</time> </span> <div class="layout layout--gmu layout--twocol-section layout--twocol-section--30-70"> <div class="layout__region region-first"> </div> <div class="layout__region region-second"> <div data-block-plugin-id="field_block:node:news_release:field_content_topics" class="block block-layout-builder block-field-blocknodenews-releasefield-content-topics"> <h2>Topics</h2> <div class="field field--name-field-content-topics field--type-entity-reference field--label-visually_hidden"> <div class="field__label visually-hidden">Topics</div> <div class="field__items"> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/216" hreflang="en">Office of the Provost</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/3681" hreflang="en">minors</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/3671" hreflang="en">Curriculum Impact Grants</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/871" hreflang="en">College of Visual and Performing Arts</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/291" hreflang="en">College of Science</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/391" hreflang="en">College of Humanities and Social Sciences</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/426" hreflang="en">Volgenau School of Engineering</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/556" hreflang="en">Schar School of Policy and Government</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/691" hreflang="en">College of Health and Human Services</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/1241" hreflang="en">Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter School for Peace and Conflict Resolution</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/1291" hreflang="en">鶹 Libraries</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/1061" hreflang="en">Costello College of Business</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/3676" hreflang="en">INTO Mason</a></div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/taxonomy/term/116" hreflang="en">Campus News</a></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> Thu, 16 Jul 2020 09:00:19 +0000 Colleen Rich 10366 at